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  I’d rather idols sing in Korean than Engrish

• JayDK

  Me too, but neither Korean nor Engrish will make it in the American market.  Basically, the songs will have to sound as if they’re sung by a native speaker of English before they have a chance to break through in the U.S.

• igbygrl

  ^ I completely agree with this statement.

  I remember with BoA’s USA venture, SM Entertainment made outlandish, lofty goals ( too lofty and high if you ask me) that BoA will change the US music industry and that literally she will take over America. Their goals and aspirations were just to unattainable and lacked common sense. And then fast forward to now they try to use the same type of tactics to see if they could garner any interest with SNSD by debuting them on Letterman. Their tactics were quite dElusional when they saw the lukewarm reception they got a club when a DJ introd iced them.

  At least with JYP’s Wondergirls he is trying to get a niche in the teenybopper fandom on Nickelodeon

• theprophetblog

  I disagree. I still think K-Pop has a strong identity of its own, but the whole point of K-Pop IMO is to be an improved mish-mash of pop around the world. K-Pop to me is a mixture of J-Pop, American Pop, and Europop, so a lot of it can be similar to mainstream American music, but I think K-Pop artists package it better. They’re more talented, conceptual, and visual.

  Also, there is still a lot of diversity and things in K-Pop you would never see on the American charts. Look at Sunny Hill or Brown Eyed Girls. Also, K-Pop often contains pop from so many different eras. They can still do disco (Roly Poly) or 80s (9 Muses “News”) or turn-of-the-millenium bubblegum (APink’s “My My”). In America everybody pretty much needs to be doing the same thing and there’s no room for anything different. It’s been a little broader with artists like Gotye and Adele etc, and they are pop artists, but they aren’t typically pop in the same vein as a Katy Perry, Beyonce, Rihanna, Britney etc. In K-Pop, you still have the idol artists, the equivalants of the Katy Perrys etc, mixing genres and doing music from different eras.

• igbygrl

  Sunny hill and brown eyed girls are terrible examples for diversity in Kpop. They still sing the underlying score of generic RnB beats and pop synthed sounds.

  And obviously you’ve never heard of anything much passed the top 40 radio hits in the US. In America we have rock, we got alternsitwve pop, we have country, we have rock and blues, we have punk, we have hip hop, we have soul and etc. What does Korea have?

  I don’t think Kpop has much diversity at all when it comes to their sounds and musical development. And their version of trying to make disco seem cool is rather lacking. I don’t think a girl group who wears disco clothes and sings over a pop synthed remix of Saturday Night Fever is much diversity. They sing the same songs with similar beats only with different image concepts. That’s not diversity that’s just changing wardrobes.

• theprophetblog

  I’m talking strictly about POPHot 100 music.

  And LOL , I listen to plenty of non Top 40 music. I mostly listen to indie, rock, and country for English music, and I get my pop fix from Japan and Korea because they make much better pop.

  If you think the production on Sunny Hill’s Midnight Circus or Brown Eyed Girls’ Sixth Sense is just generic R&B you just be biased or deaf.

• igbygrl

  I actually like Sunny Hill but they do sing mostly generic ballad songs and RnB beats.

  I didn’t like their Midnight Circus song that much although the MV made up for it somewhat. The lyrics had better composition than the actual musical score. But that’s just my taste talking their.

  The only song I like from them is Pray because it’s not another run of the mill Kpop ballad song. The melody is simple, not over the top (which a lot of Kpop ballad melodies seems to do which makes most Kpop ballad songs sound all the same to me) and it show cases the singers voices more without over stressing their vocals to great fetes. As for the musical and lyrical composition although the lyrics is about love, the deeper meaning behind it makes it somewhat darker, obsessive and confining. And the MV showcases the lyrical composition to the song wonderfully. As for the score it is simplistic yet haunting. I’m a harsh critic when it comes to Kpop ballads because most if not all them tries to showcase too much of the singers vocals and not much when it comes to musical artistry. They all sound the same when it comes to composition.

  Anyways I actually think you are the biased one. Just because you listen to “some” US music doesn’t mean you actually have a broad taste in music. Also with pop music as long as the song is popular it will be considered pop music. Thus why it goes mainstream. Like the song We Are Young from FUN. The song and artist were pretty obscure and underrated, and the song has been out since last year.But it got immensely popular after the car dealership KIA used it in their commercial. Now it’s being played on the top 40 radio. Ironic how a song that was labeled as obscure, indie and underrated about a year ago now all of a sudden got immensely popular to the point it’s being overplayed. POP from pop music comes from the derivative of the word popular. Think about that before you label anything as mostly generic